tarptent aeon li vs zpacks
The two lines of stitches through the glue will distribute any load away from the glue, and, pick up more fibers in the DCF than a single stitch. I much prefer double wall tents for the additional condensation protection and modular capabilities. I think this is close to what HMG is doing, who seam to have the nicest DCF seams, but I’m not certain. Anything I am missing in the comparison? Seems well thought out, might be  generation ahead of everybody else.

My point was just that Zpacks construction methods don’t really provide a reason to choose their product over someone else’s. I can throw in a groundhog mini to supplement, More posts from the ULgeartrade community. It might be interesting to have an American thru-hiker come to Scotland with his/her setup. – SS Li likely has better construction quality

Trekking pole tip up vs handle up. I think there is an issue with that seam design, which is that a lot of the tape is designed in peel.

Stratospire option for “solid” (1/3 mesh) inner tent for better wind and snowdrift protection.

Then only if you have to, shift the poles, and only go back around to the other side if there might be some flapping in the wind. But you also want to hide the raw edges of the DCF so they don’t fray, so then you’re left with something like the last diagram. I am having trouble finding information/reviews other than Ryan’s detailed review of the Notch Li (though thats just initial impressions – not long term usage). I think Zpacks does a normal rolled (flat felled) seam and then slaps tape on the outside, but it’s been a while since I really looked at one. Personally I’d take the SS Li.

The first proto will hopefully be ready in a month or so and it’ll use a combo of methods – some seams how I want them (basically that last diagram) and other seams how they think is best. A Basic, Premium, or Unlimited Membership is required to post in the forums.

Glue & Stitch is a fairly standard technique.

Now it’s bomber and leakproof. “The most immaculately constructed DCF shelter I have ever seen was an MLD Grace Duo Tarp and it didn’t have a single stitch in it’s construction.

And, yes, it will also elongate the holes somewhat. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Both are just slightly too small for me (I'm 6' 2" 250lbs). I think it would have leaked long before it actually pulled apart…again, you might be right: that the flat joint actually doesn’t leak under greater pressure than a rolled joint. Their methods are good enough, but not anything special. Tarptent StratoSpire Li vs Zpacks Duplex. Whereas TarpTent is actually bonding the seams and then sewing afterwards to make sure the bonding doesn’t slip. That’s some tent! I wouldn’t give ZPacks too much credit for pioneering DCF. “Hi Dan, where did this information come from?”

I can ship them in just a few days from New Mexico. Thanks for the reply, Dan. The only thing it could do would be subject to peel forces, so but it’s an inefficient use of tape. Mine does have a stitched hemmed edge finishing the perimeter of the tarp. Standard stuff while sewing. A few more Stratospire vs Duplex features: “Whereas TarpTent is actually bonding the seams and then sewing afterwards to make sure the bonding doesn’t slip.”. I think this is because it's posted by 'Wild West Pacific Coast Trail'. So perhaps it’s semantics since if something is good enough then why worry about it further, but still like things to be as good as they can be unless there is a cost to doing that. Even now I think they still do that and just slap some tape over top (I could be wrong).

From what I have read, it is generally considered as bomber as any DCF shelter out there, and MLD has claimed to have not received any reports of failure in the field. As it creeps, the first stitch picks up picks up pressure (depending on your viewpoint) transferring it to the second stitch.

Both tents have only been used for 3 nights, and were both bought new earlier this year. And with the tip down, your pole is solidly, Duplex optional pole set for free-standing setup. Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by FOX160, Feb 19, 2019. A few more differences/points:

They all range from about 19 oz to about 21 oz in weight. Generally, any shredding or tears will NOT happen at the join, but rather in the panel where scratches or other abrasion weakens it. A normal flat seam, rolled together with glue, provides this. From what I have read, it is generally considered as bomber as any DCF shelter out there, and MLD has claimed to have not received any reports of failure in the field. the ‘box’ ends for extra volume are really well done.

Both are just slightly too small for me (I'm 6' 2" 250lbs). With DCF, you would simply use a narrower tape, like 1/4″-3/8″ wide in three layers in the seam itself with a wider 3/4″ to 1″ single sided tape over that, just to make sure there are no leaks. I agree that the sewn seams of the Duplex aren’t going to fail when the tent is used reasonably. On my TT Moment, I haven’t found the magic formula to get them just right on the first, second, or even third try. It is rather simple to do, once you know. So how do the edges of the DCF not fray if it’s just a simply overlap like that?

– SS Li is more complex to set up.

Don’t know…anyway, covering the seam holes may be overkill. Just a thought….

Dan, the honest answer is I don’t know about fraying.

Tape loses a lot of performance such that sudden failure can happen in cold temps. Similarly, their standard 'setup vid' starts with a chap spreading out a tent on the ground then walking off/standing back without needing to secure even one corner, windspeed being zero (contrast this with Hilleberg's videos for example). Any one know what seam construction MLD uses, or is it a proprietary secret?

From what I can gather the Tarptent StratoSpire Li is about 5 ounces heavier when including stakes, $79 more expensive, but has a full double wall system and larger vestibules, and overall more wind/snow worthy.

I think MLD normally does sew too (my DCF DuoMid had stitching). Only the Zpacks Duplex scores higher due to its lightweight, but the StratoSpire holds up better in poor weather.

I remember this guy darwinonthetrail talking on youtube about how he cannot really say anything about his new rainjacket coz it just wouldn't rain for the last 500 miles of his CDT trip. This really happens simultaneously from both sides of each panel. The Plexamid currently has a 2 week lead time, and the Aeon Li is currently out of stock.

AEON LI IS SOLD. 12213 Koswyn Ct. Nevada City, CA 95959 USA. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But, the overall join durability is increased about 2 to 4 times. If that single line of stitching fails then the seam peels to unravel back to the middle piece of tape.

That would hold, but ugly to have a seam do this.

thanks in advance for your replies! In common with most American tent vids, you don't generally get to see the (outer) doors closed. The seam looks like this (image stolen from Dan): The reinforcements at guyout points are bonded without any stitching. The most immaculately constructed DCF shelter I have ever seen was an MLD Grace Duo Tarp and it didn’t have a single stitch in it’s construction. The actual mechanics of glue creep and “Strength Of the Joint” (SOJ) seem to indicate a combination joint. [WTS] Zpacks Plexamid (14.64 oz) & Tarptent Aeon Li (17.46 oz) Sell. It fits one person, large or small, with ample sleeping space, while preserving a narrow footprint thanks to its innovative strut system.

I studied the ridge line seam in particular, and never could quite be certain how it was put together. Any one know what seam construction MLD uses, or is it a proprietary secret?”. It’s pretty common to stitch the bottom hem and I think this is a good idea because it is measurably lighter and you don’t need a bonded seam here. BACKPACKING LIGHT® and the FEATHER/MOUNTAIN icon are registered trademarks granted for exclusive use to Beartooth Media Group, Inc.

Of course, cleaning the needle with a alcohol or acetone rag will be required periodically. The set-up video looks a bit busy. In practice, not a big deal, unless you need to pack your tent into an unusual space.

– The SS Li fly has more coverage so better at blocking winds. The BPL review of the Notch Li says: “The Tarptent Notch Li applies a bonded-then-sewn approach to adjoining DCF seams”. Yeah, but I think I lost 1 of the stakes. Isn’t this how ZPacks finishes the seams on their tents?

Tarptent.

FOX160, Feb 19, 2019 #1. gixer Thru Hiker. Double wall tents still get condensation on the outside wall/fly, but you are much less likely to make contact while inside, keeping you and your equipment dryer.

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